The Mastering Show

The Mastering Show Podcast

with Ian Shepherd and Jon Tidey

The Mastering Show #101 - Mixing and mastering Brian Eno - with Emre Ramazanoglu

September 18th, 2025 BY ian@productionadvice.co.ukNo Comments 

Brian Eno is probably the musician, producer and artist who has had the single biggest influence on my music taste and enjoyment over the years. His work speaks for itself and needs no introduction !

So when I heard Emre Ramazanoglu talking on the Working Class Audio podcast about re-mixing and mastering many of Brian's classic albums for Dolby Atmos, my ears immediately pricked up. I just couldn't miss the chance to talk to him in more detail about working with Brian - and the amazing detective work that it involved.

So in this episode Emre and I take a deep dive into this fascinating subject, talking about things like:

  • "Audio archeology" – the challenges of mixing Eno's older material, and the unexpected solutions Emre found
  • How mixing for Eno is different from Emre's usual workflow, even with brand new releases
  • The lessons Emre learned - and why this might be what makes Eno such a great producer
  • New immersive strategies Emre developed specifically for these albums...
  • ...and how they're helping his stereo mixing as well !

Links

Emre Ramazanoglu

TMS #81 - Atmos mastering & mixing with Emre & Mike Hillier

ENO: the first generative documentary – and why you should see it

Brian Eno: Behind The Reflection (BBC Click) - More about how Reflection and Aurum were created

Generative Music 1 by Brian Eno - is this his rarest album ever ?

TMS #97 - Mixing Ziggy Stardust in Dolby Atmos, with Ken Scott

The Mastering Show #100 - Matt Boudreau from Working Class Audio interviews... me !

June 20th, 2025 BY ian@productionadvice.co.ukNo Comments 

I wanted to do something a little different to mark the 100th episode, but wasn't sure what. I was wondering about interviewing myself but that seemed a little weird...

And then Matt Boudreau from the excellent Working Class Audio podcast invited me back onto his show, and it occurred to me - I could get Matt to interview me, which would be way more fun and get some much more interesting questions !

So here it is. Matt and I talk about all kinds of things including:

  • My background in music, production and music technology
  • How I got my start as a mastering engineer
  • The responsibilities of the mastering engineer (and the mistake that nearly cost me my job)
  • My first mastering chain, and how it inspired my Perception AB plugin
  • How I feel about being 'The Loudness Guy'
  • Hardware versus 'in-the-box' mastering
  • Why mastering matters

And loads more !

Links

Matt Boudreau

WCA #549 - "Part 2" of my conversation with Matt (including AI and the democratisation of mastering, more on being "The Loudness Guy", focusing on joyful, intentional work and much more!)

WCA #132 - My first appearance on Working Class Audio with Matt

WAC #300 - with Andrew Scheps

WAC #290 - with Joe Chiccarelli

WCA #220 - with Butch Vig

The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to Sound Engineering - or how stereophonic sound changed my life

The Mastering Show #99 - Recording, mixing and mastering acoustic guitar (with Richard Durrant)

May 29th, 2025 BY ian@productionadvice.co.uk1 Comment 

Stereo, mono, binaural or surround-sound ?

I've worked with this episode's guest in all these formats and more over the many years we've been working together - but which does he prefer, and why ?

Richard Durrant describes himself as an "Indie Classical" musician, which I think is a pretty good summary - but doesn't really take into account the fact that he also toured with Sky, worked as an accomplished session musician for many years and has released albums in a brilliantly eclectic variety of other genres and styles over the years.

In this conversation we talk about:

  • Why Richard records in an "acoustic igloo" (and what that is)
  • Mic techniques for guitar and dealing with "wolf notes" on stringed instruments
  • Real spaces versus digital reverb
  • Touring (and performing) with a bicycle
  • Performing Bach's cello suites on Banjo and Ukulele - how and why

Links

Richard's Website www.richarddurrant.com

Richard's music on Bandcamp

Instagram @richarddurrantguitar

The Pollinator Cafe @thepollinatorcafe

Cycling Music

Richard's Guitars: The Bog Oak Guitar

The Mastering Show # 98 - Stem mastering, Dynamics and Dolby Atmos and at Abbey Road (with Oli Morgan)

April 1st, 2025 BY ian@productionadvice.co.ukNo Comments 

'Stem mastering' has provoked a ton of debate recently, with people claiming it crosses the line between mixing and mastering, interferes with the artist's intent, and isn't even really mastering at all !

But if that's true, why would Abbey Road, one of the biggest mastering studios in the world, offer a dedicated stem mastering service ?!

In this episode I talk to Oli Morgan, who specialises in stem mastering and mixing in mastering in Dolby Atmos at Abbey Road, about all these questions and more. We talk about:

  • How he got started in mastering (and what that has in common with me)
  • His perspective on stem mastering – when and how it can be helpful
  • How (and why) stem mastering is a key element for working in Immersive Audio and Dolby Atmos
  • What we can learn about dynamics from working in Dolby Atmos
  • Why the 'pressure sound' may not be all about heavy limiting
  • How we might be able to have our cake and eat it in the quest to balance loudness and dynamics

Links

Oli Morgan – Mastering Engineer

Stem mastering & Dolby Atmos @ Abbey Road

Nick Watson @ Fluid Mastering

TMS #75 – Stem mastering - or is it ?

'Pax Aeterna' – Tom Donald, The Monks of Pluscarden Abbey on Apple Music

'No Reason' – The Chemical Brothers on Apple Music

Dynamic Range Day

The Mastering Show # 97 - Should you learn mastering FIRST ?! with Ken Scott

October 28th, 2024 BY Jon TideyNo Comments 

The term “legend” gets thrown all the time in audio production circles, but my guest this episode really deserves it. 

I’m sure you already know this but Ken Scott has worked with the Beatles, David Bowie, Elton John and Supertramp amongst so many others, so I was delighted when he agreed to join me for this episode !

There were so many things we could have talked about it was hard to know where to start, but here are just a few of the topics we covered:

  • Why Abbey Road trained their engineers in mastering before they were ever allowed to engineer a recording session
  • The value of mentors - and being thrown in at the deep end
  • Mixing in sections (instead of using automation)
  • When limited resources are a Good Thing
  • Re-mixing Ziggy Stardust in Dolby Atmos (with added drum samples…!)
  • …and how the new mix translates to stereo

Links

Ken’s book Abbey Road to Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust in Dolby Atmos - Trident Studios playback and discussion

TMS #81 - Atmos mastering with Emre Ramazanoglu and Mike Hillier

Sound on Sound: Ziggy Stardust in Atmos

Ziggy in Atmos on Blu-Ray

EpiK DrumS - A Ken Scott Collection for BFD3

Interview with Ken on RecordProduction.com

The Mastering Show # 96 - Flippin' Clippin' ! Is it REALLY everything they say it is ??

September 27th, 2024 BY Jon TideyNo Comments 

We’ve been using “soft clipping" in mastering for over 20 years at this point, but it suddenly feels as if it’s all anyone is talking about ! New plugins, new suggestions about how to use it, and wild new claims about how amazing it sounds.

Except it doesn’t.

At least – not all the time, and not for all material.

In this episode Joe Caithness and I dig deep into the details and talk about:

  • What clipping is, and what it isn’t
  • The crucial differences between hard and soft clipping
  • What makes a great clipping plugin (and why comparing them is a nightmare)
  • Some of our favourite clipping plugins and how we use them
  • The kinds of material that work best with clipping, and what type to use
  • The golden rule to follow if you want to experiment with clipping yourself

Links

Joe Caithness Mastering

Must-watch: You don’t understand saturation

Pre and post-emphasis EQ

TMS #79 - Dan Worrall on non-linear processing

TMS #64 - Aliasing - is it digital audio’s Achilles Heel ?

DDMF Plugin Doctor

Plugins

TC Electronics Brickwall HD

Newfangled Saturate

Schwabe Gold Clip

Leapwing LimitOne

SIR Standard Clip

Kazrog KClip

MeterPlugs Perception AB

The Mastering Show # 95 Loudness trends in 2024 - should you follow them ? with Ian Stewart

August 15th, 2024 BY Jon Tidey1 Comment 

The Billboard Top 50 global singles from the first half of 2024 have an average loudness of -8.3 LUFS

So that’s how loud we should be making our masters, right ?

Well…

It certainly might seem that way, but in reality it’s a bit more complicated than that. This is only one of the interesting results that Ian Stewart presented in his latest blog post for iZoTope, and in this episode I asked him back on to really dig into some of the details and nuance.

Plus I also wanted to talk to him about the amazing plug-in that got invented during the last episode he was on ! (Well, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it 😛)

During the show we talk about:

  • What that -8 LUFS average result REALLY means, and how much attention you should pay to it
  • Who the most successful artist in the Top 50 is, and the loudness statistics of their music
  • The problem with the title iZotope chose for the post
  • All the other results, trends and biases in the data
  • Basslane Pro, the plug-in Ian worked with Tone Projects to develop, why it’s unique - and how The Mastering Show helped it happen !

Links

Mastering trends in 2024: What you should be doing (Or not… ?!)

TMS #25 - Stereo: width, depth and image - how to measure, monitor and master them

TMS #76 - Is stereo bass a problem on vinyl ?

Ian Stewart - Flotown Mastering

Basslane Pro

Michelangelo EQ

Loudness Penalty Studio

The Mastering Show # 94 - The truth about vinyl with Scott Hull

July 17th, 2024 BY Jon Tidey1 Comment 

People are always asking me about mastering for vinyl, and I’m happy to try and help based on the experience I have. I don’t actually cut vinyl myself though, so that advice is always limited and second-hand. 

So for this episode I decided to talk to a genuine expert on the topic - Scott Hull from Masterdisk - and really get into the details. Scott’s knowledge and experience of cutting vinyl is enormous, as you’ll hear, and I took full advantage of that in this episode ! Some of the things we talked about include:

  • The 4 stages of vinyl production, and why each is important
  • How making assumptions about vinyl mastering can backfire
  • Why choosing which plant is going to press the records is crucial
  • The crucial role of the lathe - and it’s setup
  • The myth of duration on vinyl - why “20 minutes per side” isn’t a hard and fast rule
  • Why less limiting allows you to cut louder on vinyl
  • What is the magic of vinyl ?

Links

Scott Hull @ Masterdisk

Making Vinyl @ Masterdisk: Podcast and YouTube

TMS #76 - Is stereo bass a problem on vinyl ?

What Artists Get Wrong With Their Vinyl Releases: A Conversation with Scott Hull

The Mastering Show #93 - Do you NEED to be mastering loud ?

June 18th, 2024 BY Jon TideyNo Comments 

I’m always arguing for balanced dynamics rather than loudness for it’s own sake, but some people have a different opinion - high loudness is important, and even beneficial.

Nick Di Lorenzo is one of them - he says that loudness is important regularly on his YouTube channel. So in this episode I invited him on to explore that idea in more detail, and really get into the nuances of the topic. Do you need to be mastering loud ? Topics include:

  • The practicalities of loudness
  • What makes things sound loud anyway ?
  • Record labels versus loudness
  • Why loudness IS important
  • Why LUFS don’t matter, and
  • The difference between loudness and LUFS

Links

Our previous mastering discussion on Nick’s channel

TMS #31 - What IS loudness ?

Higher LUFS - do they REALLY always sound louder ? (Includes the examples Nick mentions)

It's not how loud you make it, it's how you make it loud

So: How loud ? The simple solution to optimizing playback volume online - and everywhere else

The Mastering Show #92 - These are not the LUFS you are looking for

February 20th, 2024 BY Jon Tidey7 Comments 

You can't go a day without someone telling you how loud your music should be, these days.

"Everything has to be -8 LUFS"

"EDM has to be -6 LUFS or louder"

"-11 is the perfect balance"

"Just master everything to -14"

...but they can't all be right !

In fact, none of them are, and even more importantly, they may not even be talking about the same thing. And the differences are really important. So in this episode I try explain really clearly and concisely:

  • The 3 different types of LUFS
  • The difference between them
  • Why it’s crucial to know which type you’re talking about
  • Why mastering to integrated targets makes no sense
  • When -14 LUFS isn’t loud enough – and why ?
  • Why it’s not about ‘how loud’, it’s about how you make it loud
  • Why integrated LUFS values are the result, not the goal of mastering 

Links

TMS #67 - Minus 14 LUFS, or not ?

TMS #52 – DON’T aim for LUFS targets online

TMS #44 - Loudness Units 101

The Loudness Penalty website

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